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jovan belcher killed her. >> bob: i see. right. >> kimberly: greg? >> greg: if it was a deadly flood it would be the same saying we need to been a water. he is a hypocritical buffoon. he spends his life wondering in and out of the new york buildings flanked by people who are armed. he doesn't have to have a gun because he is protected by people with guns. he is a sanctimonious ghoul. when something comes up, he has to come up. pay attention to me. this is about scoring points with other people in media. same with whitlock, who is a chucklehead. this guy in the knickss when he was talking about jeremy lin played off a stereotypical deficiency i'm not even going to get in to. who refers to the nra as kkk. he is a bigot. apologize for that. >> bob: what is a ghoul? >> greg: somebody uses tragedy to build himself up. he is a hypocrite. because he doesn't worry about being armed. people are armed for him. we live in a building right now, we work atuilding right now, where everybody has a gun outside. we're lucky. the rest of the public doesn't. >> bob: er
jovan belcher killed her. >> bob: i see. right. >> kimberly: greg? >> greg: if it was a deadly flood it would be the same saying we need to been a water. he is a hypocritical buffoon. he spends his life wondering in and out of the new york buildings flanked by people who are armed. he doesn't have to have a gun because he is protected by people with guns. he is a sanctimonious ghoul. when something comes up, he has to come up. pay attention to me. this is about scoring points...
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in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their position connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> the 93-year-old costas has gotten a bit of blow back for his comment as the nra-ceo said, quote, people turn on nbc to watch a football game and didn't want to listen to bob costas make excuses about a murder and wining about his social agenda of gun bans in the middle of a football game. remi, let's go to you first. whether you believe in gun control or not, i can't remember. it is half time at a chief hfs panthers -- chiefs-panthers game which for your information is football. really the best place to make a political statement? >> yes. isn't that where everybody should make their political statements? no, i don't watch football. i do watch sports. i like to hear if i am listening to tennis. he is fantastic. if he started spouting some political or social beliefs that have to do with gun control or abortion, would i turn it off and
in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their position connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> the 93-year-old costas has gotten a bit of blow back for his comment as the nra-ceo said, quote, people turn on nbc to watch a football game and didn't want to listen to bob costas make excuses about a murder and wining about his social...
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star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk toed his mother, kissed his baby girl and left. he drove five miles to the chiefs' practice field after several minutes of pleading with him, they couldn't talk belcher off the ledge. belcher thanked the coaches, knelt down beside a car, made a sign of a cross and put a shot to his fare hoed ending his life -- fair
star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where...
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jovan belcher could have used any number of weapons to kill his girlfriend kasandra perkins. but having a gun in the house sure made it a hell of a lot easier. in a year where we have seen tragedy after tragedy, whether it be in the streets of chicago or the movie theater in colorado, we as a country seem to accept it. the gun lobby is winning. in fact, nra cea is out fear mongering today. he's accusing bob costas of trying to piggy backing his social agenda. he told cnn he expects an unprecedented fight over gun control in congress next year, yet he would not give any specific legislative examples. he says "i think it's going to come hard, i think it's going to come fast, and i think it's going to come soon." i hope it does. i'm joined by bill rhoden, columnist of "the new york times" and dan gross, president of the brady campaign to prevent violence. gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight. it gets a lot of attention because it's sports and it's the nfl. but dan, to comment on the comments. will he take up the fight in the near future? >> i believe it will. and i believ
jovan belcher could have used any number of weapons to kill his girlfriend kasandra perkins. but having a gun in the house sure made it a hell of a lot easier. in a year where we have seen tragedy after tragedy, whether it be in the streets of chicago or the movie theater in colorado, we as a country seem to accept it. the gun lobby is winning. in fact, nra cea is out fear mongering today. he's accusing bob costas of trying to piggy backing his social agenda. he told cnn he expects an...
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police say she was shot multiple times by jovan belcher. the chief's players are confused and heart broken over this tragedy and many people are still wondering this morning why the chiefs decided to play the game at all. it was uncomfortable to say the least. belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that troubled him that would have caused him to commit such a heinous act as this and we just -- we'll never know, unfortunately. and i think that's the great debate of this. >> chiefs won the game against carolina and later in the locker room head coach spoke to the team. >> it's something really good today. really good. you overcame a lot. you stuck together as a team like we talked about. helped each other. all right? family and friends. you relied on those people. all right? you relied on your faith to help get you through this and we got through it. and in a
police say she was shot multiple times by jovan belcher. the chief's players are confused and heart broken over this tragedy and many people are still wondering this morning why the chiefs decided to play the game at all. it was uncomfortable to say the least. belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that...
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david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the police have released what kind of hand gun he owned. do you know what kind he owned? why are you calling it a high powered hand gun? >> well, i'm assuming most hand guns are high powered, right? >> so you call it high powered hand gun by which you mean a normal hand gun and i don't know why he owned a hand gun. we know according to the "new york times" most football -- most nfl players according to the "new york times" own firearms for protection, for the same reason that everybody else, that half the households in america own firearms for lawful protection. you know, you talk about -- >> right, but there is, as
david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the...
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belcher. listen as he quotes extensively from foxsports.com writer jason whitlock. >> our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenager boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, bait us in to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, belcher's action and the connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe. if belcher didn't process a gun, he and perkins would be alive today. >> bret: news busters said costas entitled to his opinion but does he have to give it during halftime of a nationally televised game? critics who say political bias turns up in college classrooms have a big number to back up the case. the web site campus reform looked to federal election records from open secrets.org and found 96% of donati
belcher. listen as he quotes extensively from foxsports.com writer jason whitlock. >> our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenager boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, bait us in to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, belcher's action and...
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the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob costas spewing sang t sancts drek. >> where are we headed? bob costas deserves to be fired for these remarks. >> he's allowed to have his opinion. yes, he's allowed to go there. >> we want to ban guns because the gun kills the person, not the person pulling the trigger. >> you want to get a political lecture by the rantings on the left, i suggest that bob costas could have worked for msnbc. >> jason whitlock's right. if there's no gun here, nobody's dead. i don't know what the issue is to take issue with. >> i don't get the sense he was calling for specific legislation or saying here's what we should do. >> how come
the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob...
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in the coming days, jov jovan belcher's action will be analyzed. who knows, but here is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasndra perkins would both be alive today. mike huckabee rewrote what he said but attributed tos could stas. he went on several minutes trying to make the case for gun control saying that if we had only had handgun control, then this crime never would have happened. of course, bob costas never mentioned the phrase gun control, you heard him, or add voe indicated any change in law on his nbc football show. that is not what he just heard. and every word that mike huckabee and herman cain didn't like was actually written by, as bob costas notes, fox sports columnist jason whitlock. when you read the environmental tire tea of jason's piece, which is the first article that i've read about football this year, you can be see that bob costas chose to quote it carefully, specifically leaving out the part on his show the part where jason whitlock does get political and eloquently so here's part of what he did n
in the coming days, jov jovan belcher's action will be analyzed. who knows, but here is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasndra perkins would both be alive today. mike huckabee rewrote what he said but attributed tos could stas. he went on several minutes trying to make the case for gun control saying that if we had only had handgun control, then this crime never would have happened. of course, bob costas never mentioned the phrase gun control, you heard him, or...
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identifir o'reilly, i agreeu that jovan belcher was a villain. we can't take away his firearms. what's the litmus test, strange behavior? they gave the folks some power. fire arm possession is on that list. jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff, darrell. this is a no cliche zone here. we have a bunch of younger people working for us. sometimes the conversation sounds like an episode of american bandstand. the fines go to charity.
identifir o'reilly, i agreeu that jovan belcher was a villain. we can't take away his firearms. what's the litmus test, strange behavior? they gave the folks some power. fire arm possession is on that list. jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have...
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in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> steve: so there is mr. costas lecturing america on gun control. it's interesting, i saw one blogger say if he didn't blame guns, he would have to talk about the consequences of his multiple head injuries, drugs and rage. why didn't he talk about that? because it would be bad for the nfl. >> brian: i got a tweet that said, don't blame bob costas, blame the microphone. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: here is the thing about domestic violence, which i fortunately learned a lot about after doing a 30-part series on it when i worked in dallas. there is a lot of misinformation about this particular situation. and trust me, in domestic violence situations, if people want to hurt somebody, they're going to use whatever they have at that particular moment. so it could have been a knife, their own hands. i mean, who knows? so i think it's a littl
in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe, if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> steve: so there is mr. costas lecturing america on gun control. it's interesting, i saw one blogger say if he didn't blame guns, he would have to talk about the consequences of his multiple head injuries, drugs and rage. why didn't...
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he made some pretty controversial comments a day african can city chiefs player jovan belcher killed the mother of his 3-year-old daughter and then drove to arrowhead stadium and shot himself. >> you want some actual perspective on this? well, a bit of it comes from the kansas city based writer jason whitlock with whom i do not always agree, but today said it so well that we may as well from the end of his article. our current gun krul tour, whitlock wrote, insures that nestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and that more convenience store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will lee more teenage boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our gnaws, tempt us to escalate confrontation rather than avoiding it. >> pretty clear what he was saying. howard kurtz from cnn's ""reliable sources" "joins me live now by skype. quite a discussion has erupted since those comments were made, howie. is that a legitimate conversation that we should all be having about what bob said? >> well, it's an important conversation, ashleigh, but by stepp
he made some pretty controversial comments a day african can city chiefs player jovan belcher killed the mother of his 3-year-old daughter and then drove to arrowhead stadium and shot himself. >> you want some actual perspective on this? well, a bit of it comes from the kansas city based writer jason whitlock with whom i do not always agree, but today said it so well that we may as well from the end of his article. our current gun krul tour, whitlock wrote, insures that nestic disputes...
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the kansas city chiefs reeling after police say linebacker jovan belcher killed his girlfriend then drove to arrowhead stadium and took his life in front of his coach and manager. martha: despite this tragedy. kansas city managed to play their scheduled game and as you would imagine it was a very emotional day for the players and the teams and the families and fans. after the game this is the scene. you can see the players alternating there. the teams gathering together as they huddled in prayer at mid field. >> we are grieving for all involved. it's tough when a circumstance happens, you can't undo them. so you have to rely on each other, rely on your family and friends and rely on your faith. that's what the team tried to do today and we were able to do that and work our way through the tragedy. >> the police investigation goes from here. it's hard to imagine how that team could witness a player suer suicide and take the field the next day. >> the head coach and gh have talked to police about it but declined to talk to the press after yesterday's game. >> i think that respectfully to yo
the kansas city chiefs reeling after police say linebacker jovan belcher killed his girlfriend then drove to arrowhead stadium and took his life in front of his coach and manager. martha: despite this tragedy. kansas city managed to play their scheduled game and as you would imagine it was a very emotional day for the players and the teams and the families and fans. after the game this is the scene. you can see the players alternating there. the teams gathering together as they huddled in...